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Old May 26, 2010, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #201
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I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.

Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.

It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.
So the Honda boy goes home and pops out his drunkard bot.

Seriously just stop, now.. it's embarrassing.
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Old May 26, 2010, 11:56 PM // 23:56   #202
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I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.

Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.

It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.
but the dude in the lamborghini was supposed to be in a civic too. it was in the rules of the race. You see the problem now? if not, I suggest you leave.
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Old May 26, 2010, 11:56 PM // 23:56   #203
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Okay, with that idea that anything that gives an "advantage" even if it's not harmful to anyone, so, a timer that beeps every minute on my computer to remind me is a third party program that is giving me and unfair "advantage" and should be bannable, and hell, this egg timer on my desk is hardware meant for exploiting the same thing.

LADIES AND GENTS HIDE YOUR EGG TIMERS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DRUNKARD.

No gestapo I am wearing mine gold star and I do not have an egg timer.
agreed. if all it does is prevent you from waisting your time on something and doesnt effect anyone else then it should be ok. if it effected others thatd be a different story.
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Old May 26, 2010, 11:57 PM // 23:57   #204
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So is multilaunch ok? I just started using it and sure as hell don't want to lose TWO accounts! :/
jesus christ people.

They already said it's "okay" to use GWML. Do they have to sing it to you??

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Old May 26, 2010, 11:57 PM // 23:57   #205
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Seeing now that they seem to be okay with players using the original TexMod, that gives me some relief, but I'm still disappointed to be unable to access GW right now to make sure my account is still safe and sound.

I was sure that ANet was listening, but not certain that they would react. This makes me a little more confident in what ANet is doing towards this issue.

One question that I still have is about the /report command. This command has an option for reporting botters, but the statement that James Phinney gave only mentioned to go to Support for reporting botters. Can we still count on using the /report command for botters to have some kind of purpose or effect?
If you aren't at a computer with access to Guild Wars, try the NCsoft account. I think the NCsoft account reports back to you on the page with your GW accounts if any are playable or unplayable, maybe this can help you out some bit?
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Old May 26, 2010, 11:58 PM // 23:58   #206
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I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.

Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.

It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.
a free lambo thats also available to the first guy
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Old May 26, 2010, 11:58 PM // 23:58   #207
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well i have to say. this is prob the most effective NERF they have done in a while. Anet failing in nerfing SC's made every sc'er lol. most Sc's got easier after the nerf and this probably did the job. Just ban all the good players. lol
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:00 AM // 00:00   #208
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I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.

Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.

It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.
You are completely missing the point. Guild Wars should be played the way it is meant to be played. Titles and achievements, however trivial, should not be further devalued with the ability to simply automate them and walk away from your PC.

'It doesn't hurt anyone' is not a valid point. It hurts the game.
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:00 AM // 00:00   #209
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Okay, with that idea that anything that gives an "advantage" even if it's not harmful to anyone, so, a timer that beeps every minute on my computer to remind me is a third party program that is giving me and unfair "advantage" and should be bannable, and hell, this egg timer on my desk is hardware meant for exploiting the same thing.

LADIES AND GENTS HIDE YOUR EGG TIMERS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DRUNKARD.

No gestapo I am wearing mine gold star and I do not have an egg timer.
I've been working on drunkard, off and on when I have the ale... for over 2 years. Swear to god, and I'm only ~7600 miniutes in. Granted, I play alts, so I can't drink all the time and I haven't played much in the last 6 months, but still.

People with bots can get the same title in under 2 weeks by afking.

The only reason ale-hound is prestigious at all is because of the massive time sink involved in drinking all that ale. Drunk bot removes that time sink. If you don't see the difference, I don't know what the hell is wrong with you.
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:00 AM // 00:00   #210
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a free lambo thats also available to the first guy
But it's still not the rules of the race.... so just stop argueing.
When you said yes to playing this game, you said yes to playing it without bots as well.. so stop you stupid whining
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:00 AM // 00:00   #211
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well i have to say. this is prob the most effective NERF they have done in a while. Anet failing in nerfing SC's made every sc'er lol. most Sc's got easier after the nerf and this probably did the job. Just ban all the good players. lol
These "good players" got banned for botting. Botting makes players good? I don't think so.
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:01 AM // 00:01   #212
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Heres a responce from another thread that fits perfectly for you.



There is no need for you to continue trolling here, just go use your BOT and see how it goes!!!
It astounds me the amount of mental gymnastics you are doing to somehow see it as being harmful/malicious. A different tune would surely be whistled if you too were using something for drunkard, it's all perspective. Let's step outside of this whole perspective based argument, and go back to what I'm trying to say.

Find me a way in which this can be construed as malicious. And should something that is not proven to be malicious be acted upon.
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:01 AM // 00:01   #213
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well i have to say. this is prob the most effective NERF they have done in a while. Anet failing in nerfing SC's made every sc'er lol. most Sc's got easier after the nerf and this probably did the job. Just ban all the good players. lol
To be qualified as a good player you have to use bots?

I wasn't aware.
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:01 AM // 00:01   #214
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Okay, with that idea that anything that gives an "advantage" even if it's not harmful to anyone, so, a timer that beeps every minute on my computer to remind me is a third party program that is giving me and unfair "advantage" and should be bannable, and hell, this egg timer on my desk is hardware meant for exploiting the same thing.

LADIES AND GENTS HIDE YOUR EGG TIMERS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DRUNKARD.

No gestapo I am wearing mine gold star and I do not have an egg timer.

you'll hang for that eggtimer you fiend.
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:02 AM // 00:02   #215
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well i have to say. this is prob the most effective NERF they have done in a while. Anet failing in nerfing SC's made every sc'er lol. most Sc's got easier after the nerf and this probably did the job. Just ban all the good players. lol
Yeah.. so a bot is a good player huh?
You are so awesome at arguing!
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:02 AM // 00:02   #216
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Just ban all the good players. lol
What we're witnessing is the exact opposite, cheaters are getting banned, those are no "good players", sorry.
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:03 AM // 00:03   #217
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I've been working on drunkard, off and on when I have the ale... for over 2 years. Swear to god, and I'm only ~7600 miniutes in. Granted, I play alts, so I can't drink all the time and I haven't played much in the last 6 months, but still.

People with bots can get the same title in under 2 weeks by afking.

The only reason ale-hound is prestigious at all is because of the massive time sink involved in drinking all that ale. Drunk bot removes that time sink. If you don't see the difference, I don't know what the hell is wrong with you.
Money sink titles the prestige has never been about the time to activate the gold sink, it's always been about having the initial gold to complete them.
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:03 AM // 00:03   #218
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banning "cheaters" in a dead game, this is classic ban-drafting, i don't trust u at all, i think that u are not capable to process 3.7k accounts now at this stage of the game, you just want to save sever resources, and your slowly shutting down GW cuz the GW2 beta will come in q4 this year.In the beginning the bots were ruining the economy of GW but now after 5 years the bots are the only thing that keeps this games economy rolling by pumping in the resources, consumable price will go sky high now and I didn't max those title yet so u made my task more difficult....
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:04 AM // 00:04   #219
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agreed. if all it does is prevent you from waisting your time on something and doesnt effect anyone else then it should be ok. if it effected others thatd be a different story.
Since your thread about "your friend" botting got deleted let me offer you the same advise as the other troll here.

KEEP USING YOUR BOT and be sure to come post a giant QQ thread here so we can know how it worked out for you. errr I mean "your friend"
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:04 AM // 00:04   #220
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I say in a week or so if they havent come forward to argue or been proven incorrectly banned Anet takes all the minis and reinstalls them to the game with Lotto tickets-say 10 per account.

Thanks Anet well done
I'd say they will rather announce another Mini Mania with rare minis in magazines across the world and get money from it [it's not that I disapprove earning money ]
@s73ve_o: I've done most of my Drunkard while doing vanquishes so I'd say I was quite PLAYING the game :P and now what?

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